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#1 frankz

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 07:15 AM

So there's a new forging up to +15, what does this mean?

Top FS will have 470 def, wiz will go up to 300 or more.

Here's the thing:
- Upgrades for melee weapons will not be enough to compensate for that increased defense.
- MDEF doesn't go up with +15, but matk will increase for FS and Wiz. A lot!
- Projected HP base will increase just a little bit up to lvl120.

Don't get me wrong, FS already dominate battlefield, but you can still (kinda) fight them. But they also team up, and these upgrades make them even harder to take down.

As a long time Knight, I'm worried for our kind, but we can still equip HP 17k and Mdef 600 and run like crazy (boring AF, been there). Poor sinx and DPS though.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 04:46 PM

Hey frankz, have u tried forging anything +9 and up yet. I was thinking of buying a set of those EFC's from cash shop.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 11:46 PM

I did not personally try, but rates to go from +9 to +10 are LOW. Some friends failed 50 or more straight.
These will be removed from the shop after maintenance, but I believe with so many people getting desperate, rates must be pretty bad, if you decide to purchase, don't bust them all at once, or save and try it layer on.

I did not try myself because I only have 1 +9 equip, my weapon, which is old and not worth putting money into. Once I have the final weapon or helm, I'll give it a try, or If I can push VBS2 to +9, those are still worth it.

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Posted 17 October 2015 - 03:35 AM

That's a shame that the success rates are terrible for some players. Although, after looking through the level rankings, I did see one lvl 100 player with all +12 equips. Quite jealous here. Lol. I'd be happy if all my equips were +9. Heh. I'll definitely save and hoard the 4 sets I bought with all the precious rubies I got from daily spins and woe.
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Posted 17 October 2015 - 11:35 PM

OMG that's a lot of spinning xD



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Posted 18 October 2015 - 05:54 AM

4Set? 4x20 or 4x99? Thats tons of Gold hammers.I just buyed 2piece when heard many stay +9 and the max that i saw was +12! It bee hard to ferge weapon to+9 so i just keep my till i can get many suptools to try it!
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Posted 21 October 2015 - 04:59 PM

4Set? 4x20 or 4x99? Thats tons of Gold hammers.I just buyed 2piece when heard many stay +9 and the max that i saw was +12! It bee hard to ferge weapon to+9 so i just keep my till i can get many suptools to try it!


You don't need sup. tools. Once it is +9, if you use the new item, it won't go down to +8 if you fail.

For each attempt you need:
- 1x extreme forge (gold hammer)
- 10x oridecon or elunium
- Optional 1 condensed

+9 to +10 and +10 to +11, if you fail it won't break or go down. After +11, if you fail, it will go down -1.

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Posted 22 October 2015 - 10:51 AM

I Heard one of my Friend used 50 Sup tool and 17 Consedent Oridecon To Make his Weapon to +9. Tryed 10 Extrem Forge (Gold Hammer) and only upped to +10.

 

@Frankz do you know what happen if try up +10 Equiment With just Suptool and Consedent?

Are max Craft +15 for all,or it only can reach with Extrem Forge?



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Posted 22 October 2015 - 05:14 PM

I Heard one of my Friend used 50 Sup tool and 17 Consedent Oridecon To Make his Weapon to +9. Tryed 10 Extrem Forge (Gold Hammer) and only upped to +10.

@Frankz do you know what happen if try up +10 Equiment With just Suptool and Consedent?
Are max Craft +15 for all,or it only can reach with Extrem Forge?


That's a great question, but assuming rates get progressively worse, you'd spend much less in Extreme forge than in all the condensed you need to go to +15 with sup.tools.

I gave it a shot, 5 extreme forging tickets and made it from +9 to +11 on my cheap weapon.

I'd say that if you don't succeed in 3attempts to make it +10, better quit it and try again in a few days or at a different time.
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Posted 22 October 2015 - 10:47 PM

tip on how to get stuff to +9:
1. get equip to +8 using eft
2. use condensed and sup to get to +9
3. if it fails use eft again to get to +8. then repeat.

i know tjis may seem expensive, but the overall cost if u ask me is still less than if u try to +9 w/o using eft whem the equip goes back to +7
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