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#1 risend

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 06:42 AM

Introduction
Hi, I am writing a more detailed guide for people who are new to the game trying to forge their armors/weapons since people ask the same questions pretty often. The old discussion thread is at Weapon/Armor Forging vs. % Success Chance Table where Toshihiro1314 provided us with tables he found from taiwanese forums.  I felt it was outdated because a lot of the discussion was done in the early part of the game where no one really knew what was going on and I believe they changed our rates since then. I will answer all the commonly asked questions in one post so it is easier to refer to.
 
How to forge
There are two blacksmith npcs in Lan Forta and Valder. One does normal forging and one does precision forging. The difference between the two is that precision forging protects your item from breaking when you fail. You need 1 Sup.Forging Tool in your inventory in order to precision forge. And you need either an Oridecon for weapons or elunium for armors. Oridecons and eluniums are made by refining 10 of the rough versions.
 
When you are forging you can improve your chance of succeeding greatly by using a condensed elunium or oridecon along with your normal elunium or oridecon. My personal advice is use condensed after +3 or +4. But you don't have to, it just saves some headaches. Always use condensed with tools though. 
 
Note: There is a mis-label with the precision tool npc. The second button "Refine Elemental Stones" is actually the one for upgrading weapons. The third button "Enchant Weapon" is for armors. 
 
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Armor/Weapon safety and breaking point
Armors and weapons safety point is up to +5. So it is safe to go from +4 to +5. Failing will only cause your item to degrade by 1. This means at +4 going to +5 it will degrade to +3.
 
Armors and weapons start to break at +5 going to +6. You need to use a Sup. Forging Tool at this point to prevent it from breaking when you fail. It will still degrade by 1 though if you fail.
 
How to obtain Sup. Forging Tool
There are five ways to get tools. The easiest way is to wait for Sup. Forging Tool events. They come about once every two months. You get tools as a bonus for buying a certain # of rubies. As follows:
 
10 Rubies = X
50 Rubies = X
210 Rubies = 3 Sup. Forging Tools
540 Rubies = 8 Sup. Forging Tools
1100 Rubies = 20 Sup. Forging Tools
 
The only truly free way of getting a tool is the one you get as a quest reward. It is part of the main line of quests. You get it as a reward for the first quest you do in Valder from the npc Julia. Not repeatable sadly.
 
Other methods include lucky boxes, the spin wheel, and shining blue box. Lucky boxes are bought in the ruby shop for 5 rubies and have about a 5% chance of yielding a tool. This used to be the ONLY way of getting tools in the beginning of the game. It is very unreliable and not recommended unless you can use what it drops. Rovu has a list of what is inside http://rovu.info/lucky.php
 
The spin wheel is just as unreliable as lucky boxes. You have about a .5% chance of getting the 2 tools and 1% of getting a single tool. This was estimated based on a collection of data from people trying to get the rare during the spin wheel event. That thread is here. In the future they might just remove this option as they replace the spin wheel items randomly.
 
Finally, you can get one from Shining blue box, which is obtained from completing the Prison of Trials npc in Lan Forta. Very low chance of getting a tool here too, maybe 1-2%. Rovu.info has a list of what you can get from that box as well http://rovu.info/shining.php
 
Success rate
There are two tables with success rate. One is from the taiwanese forums (original source: http://forum.gamer.c...snA=3534&tnum=4). Those tables were from korea's servers. They don't apply to us because we don't have superior forging kits in our ruby shop so our rate is a bit higher than theirs. But it is good to know as a comparison. Also urgametips.com has rates of their own, which seem closer to ours. http://www.urgametip...and-armor.html. Below are the same tables that I just made a little prettier to read. 
 
At the end of the day all the tables are estimates. Your results will vary. 
 
Armor Success Rate
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International Weapon Success Rate
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Korean/Taiwan Weapon Success Rate
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Posted 26 November 2013 - 08:55 AM

Lol... the things I missed for starting late in the game... that spin was insane!

 

This is an outstanding guide, thanks a lot!



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 07:58 AM

I honestly think risend should apply with WarpPortal's develop team to fix the erroneous information.

On that note, if you break your item without utilizing the precision forge or without Sup. Forge, you can forget also submitting a ticket. Your error basically is none of their concern.

Source: Myself and the response I got from WarpPortal :(

Advice: Do not spam the forging button, even if you are lagging. Wait, look at the upgrade number and proceed. Stop at the 5th upgrade then go to the precision forge.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 10:23 AM

yes thumbs up for Jaleah, they won't really care much. Just +8 my staff today after maintenance, take screenshoot immediately ( cause BF happens every 30 mins and maybe they gonna do emergency patch for mimir again today), to avoid roll back issue.. now I'm pretty paranoid when new maintenance comes :o



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 10:24 AM

and the rubies bonus is incorrect at mimir server, bough 1100 rubies with 20% bonus should be 1320, but only get 1300..! nice rovu nice... sent  a ticket again :angry: :(



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Posted 27 November 2013 - 10:53 AM

yes thumbs up for Jaleah, they won't really care much. Just +8 my staff today after maintenance, take screenshoot immediately ( cause BF happens every 30 mins and maybe they gonna do emergency patch for mimir again today), to avoid roll back issue.. now I'm pretty paranoid when new maintenance comes :o

LMFAO @ paranoia

Thanks, sucks bad though because the item is hard to make :(

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 03:43 PM

@Popop Nope, that is correct. It has always been like that. You don't get bonus rubies on top of the bonus rubies. 1000 rubies is what you are buying. 100 is bonus on top. the 20% applies only to what you buy. It has been like this as long as the event has been around I believe.

 

Yeah, screenshots are good for important items. There was a precision forge bug once where items broke even though you had a sup tool. Think it took warpportal 1-2 months to give people their items back.

 

@Jaleah That sucks. Yeah, they don't care since you're a noob, heh.  :P



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Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:36 PM

and the rubies bonus is incorrect at mimir server, bough 1100 rubies with 20% bonus should be 1320, but only get 1300..! nice rovu nice... sent  a ticket again :angry: :(

 Bro, you are actually buying 1000 rubies with 100 free rubies. The 20% free is from the 1000. Total 1000 + 100 + 20% from 1k (200) = 1300 rubies. You did get the correct amount.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 06:18 AM

Those numbers drop insanely low after +5 even with condensed. More cash more ups. Lol.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:41 PM

Bro, you are actually buying 1000 rubies with 100 free rubies. The 20% free is from the 1000. Total 1000 + 100 + 20% from 1k (200) = 1300 rubies. You did get the correct amount.

Finally the correct amount 1320 :) similar issue was posted on another thread http://valkyrieupris...unt/#entry26977
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 10:26 AM

@Popop Nope, that is correct. It has always been like that. You don't get bonus rubies on top of the bonus rubies. 1000 rubies is what you are buying. 100 is bonus on top. the 20% applies only to what you buy. It has been like this as long as the event has been around I believe.

 

Yeah, screenshots are good for important items. There was a precision forge bug once where items broke even though you had a sup tool. Think it took warpportal 1-2 months to give people their items back.

 

@Jaleah That sucks. Yeah, they don't care since you're a noob, heh.  :P


I just got my 40 rubies refunded... the amount was false :)


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